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Post by Dan Chase on Apr 19, 2010 20:14:10 GMT -5
I was at the SKUSA ProMoto Tour this last weekend, I heard from a very good source that IKF is going to mandate Billet Flywheels in the clone class. This came up at their annual meeting over the weekend. Since most of the tracks are running IKF insurance, this will affect all of us.
I have not been able to confirm this, but if it's true, we may need to ban together to fight IKF on this change.
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Post by Simon on Apr 20, 2010 1:41:31 GMT -5
Dan, what can we do to make out feelings known to the IKF ? (I'm not even a member so I'm sure my opinion counts for nothing)
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Post by moparracing94 on Apr 20, 2010 15:32:34 GMT -5
I can understand the reasoning..... we don't need stock flywheels coming apart like the old flat heads did.... just a thought...
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Post by karlznet on Apr 20, 2010 16:10:53 GMT -5
I hope you guys understand Insurance is not the issue here rather special interest. The underwriter will insure stock clones running stock flywheels no problem just as they have already been doing this season. I’m thinking the best approach will be to voice our opinions to the NCTA and ask that they take it to IKF. With 6 of the 9 tracks (clubs) already running a clone class I’m sure they realize the value of ensuring the stock clone continues to grow while remaining affordable to all. www.norcalikf.com/NCTA contacts: Rick Luther - President (925) 798-4360 rmracing95@aol.com Les Hand - Vice President (916) 383-5278 les@kartelmotorsports.comCindy Duhn - Treasurer/Secretary (775) 267-1191 tctracing02@yahoo.com |
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Post by brad42 on Apr 20, 2010 17:08:36 GMT -5
The "special interest" Karl refers to has a name. Briggs and Stratton.
The advent of the clone has SIGNIFICANTLY impacted their business. The LO206 has not caught on because of it's pricing model (and interestingly does not have a billet flywheel).
I take umbrage at the "we don't need stock flywheels coming apart like the old flat heads did" comment above. That only happened in modified motors turning 7000 RPM and up, or cheaters that put a 3HP flywheel on their motors. Stock 5hp to my knowledge never had an issue. I am prety sure I saw testing by Tom at ARC that showed the flywheels safe to an RPM well above what the stock valvesprings.
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Post by moparracing94 on Apr 20, 2010 17:27:28 GMT -5
Brad.... the only reason I said that was because I have had and have seen STOCK Flathead flywheels come apart at the Jr2 and Sr. level.... Maybe what i have seen is freak incident... Personally I think the "Special Interest" would be the engine shops, running a stock motor from HF does not give them any room to charge the customer. What better way than to require parts that cost the price of the motor to keep business coming in. Yet another way to have Kart counts of 2 and 3..... again.... I have no problem with a clone class like yours, in fact I have been pushing for it down here rather than a $ 600 206 class. Just whatever happens 1 set of clone rules...
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Post by brad42 on Apr 20, 2010 17:52:45 GMT -5
Oh and another thing... It is pretty well known that the IKF and I are not on good terms. They completely screwed my club at the 1997 Speedway Grands (we were the hosting club) and yes I do still hold a $20,000 grudge about it. So I will be unable to participate in any sort of objective conversation about this, I admit that.
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Post by moparracing94 on Apr 20, 2010 18:07:18 GMT -5
Hey I agree... imho IKF is the reason we have 2-3 kart counts so i understand a grudge.
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Post by Dan Chase on Apr 20, 2010 21:14:10 GMT -5
IKF is nothing but insurance and a rule book. NCTA promotes all the IKF races in Region 11, with our new NCTA board, I think that our voice will be heard. The new board has revived IKF in NorCal to the point where SoCal drivers are coming up here to compete. SoCal had to cancel theiir last IKF race due to low entry count.
The new weekend race format with no testing a week before the race allows racers like us to be competitive on a shoestring, we are currently 2nd in points in one of the most competitive classes on a teachers salary.
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Post by karlznet on Apr 21, 2010 18:24:57 GMT -5
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Post by Simon on Apr 21, 2010 20:10:39 GMT -5
That's good to know, but I will still be running a little to the left when I'm following another clone closely down the straight, just so my head isn't in the same plane as the flywheel of the kart ahead.
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Post by karlznet on Apr 21, 2010 22:10:31 GMT -5
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Post by Simon on Apr 22, 2010 1:01:07 GMT -5
Good God !!!!!!! There is lifting the inside rear ... and then there is Karl.
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Post by Simon on Apr 22, 2010 1:08:21 GMT -5
What is so cool is your foot is hard in the throttle Karl ! Mowing to happiness.
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Post by RichH on Apr 22, 2010 8:36:07 GMT -5
Damm!!! Karl, next time could you wait for me to be in the picture too
Rich
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