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Post by ron90 on Dec 8, 2014 18:59:48 GMT -5
I just saw this: Registration is now live for the 4th Annual Syd White Memorial Enduro by Briggs and Stratton! Classes: World Formula World Formula Masters LO 206 Senior LO 206 JR2 * 2015 SWE is a Briggs only event. *Special discount on LO 206 engines for those who register for the event at $400 an engine. Details are on the webpage. * $100 cash back for top8 finisher in LO206 Senior * $100 cash back for top2 finisher in LO206 JR2 *Two to four drivers per kart. *max. 4 crew members per team. *35 kart Main entry *Tire is Bridgestone YLC for all classes *$dollars$ in Prizes will be awarded for all classes. *BBQ & food all day. Really high Fun Factor!!! *Biggest Enduro race West of Missippi!!! Please view full rules and event details at: www.montereybaykarters.com/swm/ As I mentioned this is a Briggs and Stratton only event. However with the program we have in place, you can buy a Lo206 when you register for a Lo206 class for $400 and if you are in the top 8 in Senior or top 2 in Junior you get $100 cash back from Briggs. That means it is possible to get a Lo206 for only $300 at this event! Hard to turn that down! Start getting your teams together! |
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Post by Simon on Dec 8, 2014 20:04:19 GMT -5
You know I'm in Ron. Maybe not as a driver as I wreck too much equipment, but certainly as crew.
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Post by Simon on Dec 8, 2014 20:09:43 GMT -5
.... and man, I feel like the ugly step child with a World Formula given all the love Briggs are showering on the 206 package.
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Post by Dan Pell on Dec 9, 2014 0:24:56 GMT -5
OK, I know a guy that just might take what's written above, personally! Think of it this way, NFRA was the true pioneer, trekking in a way that has others wanting to follow. Truly a blueprint for many to use, and it's based on fun. I can tell ya, the guy that helped to put the 206 program for SWM cites your group regularly, or so I'm told. It's been said that the biggest vote of confidence that you're doing it right is when others want to follow. KUDOS NFRA!  |
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Post by ron90 on Dec 9, 2014 12:56:06 GMT -5
And if we get a crew together we can use the engine that Dan is working on right now, or the one Rich has used for the last couple of races. We can decide which one is better at the time.
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Post by Simon on Dec 9, 2014 20:09:03 GMT -5
OK, I know a guy that just might take what's written above, personally! Ha! That was never the intent Dan ... I'm sure you knew that :-) |
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Post by Simon on Dec 9, 2014 20:10:04 GMT -5
And if we get a crew together we can use the engine that Dan is working on right now, or the one Rich has used for the last couple of races. We can decide which one is better at the time. It would not be an enduro without a Ron motor. Do we dare risk a 3rd enduro on the same motor ? |
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Post by RichH on Dec 9, 2014 23:03:19 GMT -5
It was my impression that the season champ had to supply the motor. I was planning on buying one of those new cheaper WF packages for a second motor anyway. I could buy it, break it in and just wait for the race. I don't think having the absolute fastest motors is the key to any win in the enduro.
It was also brought up that unless you tell Dan to build it for the Enduro his regular motors are not really setup for that kind of race.
Come on Simon, what happened to the two kart NFRA race team.
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Post by Simon on Dec 10, 2014 0:48:29 GMT -5
A few changes this year :
- the official tire for the enduro is Bridgstone.
- a new Dan rule which means you have to use a regular fuel can.
Two kart NFRA team is an awesome idea, but I think Jeff is scared.
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Post by Dan Pell on Dec 10, 2014 11:19:45 GMT -5
d**n....Now I've got to read ALL the rules, but there's a bunch of grey in the words "regular fuel can". Let's have some fun!
Ron- I've got the short block done on your motor- not assembling the head until you're ready for it (saves springs)
Simon- no offense taken, all in fun
Rich- So right, they are made differently
BTW, we had regular in our fuel can at the last race, so we'll do it again!
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Post by ron90 on Dec 10, 2014 13:22:51 GMT -5
And if we get a crew together we can use the engine that Dan is working on right now, or the one Rich has used for the last couple of races. We can decide which one is better at the time. It would not be an enduro without a Ron motor. Do we dare risk a 3rd enduro on the same motor ? If we use the engine that Dan is working on now it would be the blueprinted one, not the one we used at the last two enduros. Rich has my engine that was used at the last two enduros. You all know me, run whatever you need if it breaks or blows, oh well. I don't care what engine is used. I like the idea of two NFRA teams. Team members? Rich, Ron, Simon, Jeff, Brad, Paul, Scott. Anyone one else want to run? What two karts would we use? Mine is tweaked out and nobody would be able to drive it anyway. We would need to think new strategy for pitting and some math for how much time to stay in the seat. We now know how many laps can be done on a complete tank. However, I don't recommend that we (I) do that again. I will start pulling all my numbers together, and will not disclose them on this website. |
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Post by ron90 on Dec 10, 2014 15:04:08 GMT -5
Rich- So right, they are made differently So Dan, are you saying we should not use the engine you have in the enduro? If not, then the engine Rich has may need freshening up. Simon refreshed it last time and it worked wonderfully. |
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Post by Dan Pell on Dec 10, 2014 16:14:21 GMT -5
Ron, you're correct. Much like a race-horse is built differently when compared to a plow-horse, so are the motors.
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Post by ron90 on Dec 10, 2014 16:55:02 GMT -5
But the piston still only goes up and down. Except for my F200 that went a little sideways and then boom. |
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Post by Dan Pell on Dec 10, 2014 19:33:31 GMT -5
We can build it any way you want, but the guarantee is 10 minutes or 10 laps, whichever comes first. We've built National motors to last around 100 laps, then needing a complete rebuild. The downside, 2 or 3 of those prototypes had to be sacrificed to actually understand what was needed to make it to 100 laps!
Love this stuff, but there is a bunch of trial & error. Guessing the family would have starved if I chose to become a cardiac surgeon.
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