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Post by Josh Garwood on Dec 8, 2010 2:00:51 GMT -5
I was at emmick the other day and seen a Briggs junior 26on a kidkart. I'm very interested in running one of those on our kid kart. Is that a far fetched idea for a class
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Post by brad42 on Dec 8, 2010 8:57:26 GMT -5
I love the idea of a sealed motor in Kid Kart, but none of us that frequent this site have a kid that age. It would need a restrictor plate, or else they will go like a bat out of heck for sure.
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Post by joshgarwood on Dec 8, 2010 13:28:02 GMT -5
I believe it can be slowed down with a restrictor or the Rev limiter. I might get one and show up with it. $400-$450 sounds a lot better then $3000 for a fast kid kart motor
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Post by ron90 on Dec 8, 2010 15:00:40 GMT -5
I've got a kid that age. My oldest won the Kid Kart Championship in 2009 at Blue Max. My youngest just got two races in this last year and will race all next season.
My engine is not a $3000 engine, the whole kart cost me $1000, and was rebuilt last year mid-season. Most of the speed is the driver. I had a parent accuse me of an illegal engine because his son was about 10 seconds slower. We ran a practice session and the sound alone from the kart proved his son was lifting on every corner and my son was wide open throttle through most of the corners.
I worked with his son for 15 minutes and he took 5 seconds off per lap. That's huge. I then helped him with the carburetor and he took another 2 seconds off.
I don't plan on changing to 4 cycle kid kart because the Comer 50 works for me. I also can race almost the entire season for almost nothing except entry fees, some practice gas, and a few parts.
If you want to work on the Kid Kart stuff let me know. I am not a parent that hides information. Most that know me understand I do almost nothing to MY kart. However, I do everything to the Kid Kart to be competitive without spending a ton of money. Last year I helped a newby father in Kid Kart, and this year his kids are doing great at multiple tracks. Next year we will be racing against him again and I look forward to it. My son was in front of his in 2009, and his will be in front of mine in 2011. It's racing. My mantra is let's have fun, especially at that age.
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Post by joshgarwood on Dec 8, 2010 18:32:47 GMT -5
i know you dont have to spend $3000 .I seen one for that much on the tornado web site which i think is rediculous!!!!!!!! but a kid kart comer motor can only be run in kid kart . the junior 206 can be run all the way up through your whole racing career . !!!!!!!!!! Thats the selling point for myself !!!!!! and its $400 - $450 . a bone stock comer new is $650 - $750??? Im under the impression that a kid kart motor is supposed to be STOCK?? correct me if im wrong. Is yours stock? I know that my daughter has a long way to go as far as driving is concerned . I am more than capable of eaching her how to drive . I started racing 4 cycles in 1994 i think , ive raced almost every type of kart available , i think since the intent of kid kart is to teach the kids how to race , I should be able to run the junior 206 motor with the comer 50's ?
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Post by ron90 on Dec 9, 2010 15:03:40 GMT -5
I did not intend to imply that you could not teach your daughter to drive. If that is how you perceived it, I apologize. I have found, however, that some kids listen to other parents, rather than their parents. In the case I was referring, the dad was just as new to racing as son (both only a few months into it).
I do not have my rule book with me, but the engine does not have to be "box stock". My engine completely complies with all of the rules and regulations for the competitive division of Kid Karts. It is not "box stock" because it has at least been completely rebuilt last year mid-season. I also have a blueprinted carb on it. I don't even know who originally bought it because I got it used.
When it was rebuilt I was informed it was a great engine and not to get rid of it, but it was completely legal for IKF and WKA racing.
To compare the drivers as being the significant factor, when my youngest took over the KK he was 15 seconds per lap slower than his brother the prior year. Now he is still 5 seconds slower with a lot of room for improvement. The kart is exactly the same.
To stay on the 4 cycle thread, which is the reason we are here (sorry Brad), I think if I was to go with the Junior 206 (not even sure exactly what it is), paying the lower price would actually create an incentive for me to buy mulitple engines to compare and keep the best. I don't think that is what would be intended. However, if I am willing to buy a new Comer and blue print it, then by all means, if I went 206, I would easily buy three 206's and see which one was best. It will be interesting to see of the 4 cycle will develop for the kids.
I personally don't care if they group the kids together. They are there to have fun. I don't even know the differences between the engines. Grouping them, however, would be up to the clubs offering it.
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Post by brad42 on Dec 9, 2010 16:54:40 GMT -5
Josh I know your name from someplace...Did you used to race the caged karts in Hollister (S.M.O.K.E racing)?
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Post by joshgarwood on Dec 10, 2010 0:06:09 GMT -5
No caged karts. I ran Newman and lodi cycle bowl with go karts a few times. I ran mostly sprint in nor Cal in the 90's and early 2000's. Worked at emmick back in the day.
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Post by brad42 on Dec 10, 2010 8:56:07 GMT -5
Ah that is it, I ran the San Jose Kart club for it's final 3 years of existence, and we ran at Newman, Lodi Cycle Bowl, Livermore and in the final year Atwater . I was in the STAR class, #42 (some things never change).
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Post by joshgarwood on Dec 10, 2010 15:30:52 GMT -5
I ran lodi twice and Newman 1 or 2 times. Tim Smith got us out to lodi. Dirt was a freaking blast. Can't wait till my daughter runs on it.
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